Pugachev: You’re gonna have my head, aren’t you?
Empress Catherine: I don’t know.
Pugachev: You’d be wise to, because if you don’t, I will have yours.
Empress Catherine: Is that what you do? If I kept you here or exiled you, you’d have my head? Why?
Pugachev: Is it right, that human souls should be bought and sold like animals?
Empress Catherine: No.
Pugachev: Is it right that millions should starve, so their masters could grow fat?
Empress Catherine: No.
Pugachev: Isn’t what you call your empire an abomination?
Empress Catherine: And what would you put in its place? You kill. You burn. You destroy. But what would you put in its place? What would you build?
Pugachev: Man is born equal, but is everywhere in chains.
Empress Catherine: Rousseau.
Pugachev: I don’t know who said it, lady, but it is God’s word. You ask me what I would build, I will tell you. I would build a new world where every man is free, where all men were equal, that’s what I would build.
Empress Catherine: On the ruins of the old?
Pugachev: To build a house you must first level the ground.
Empress Catherine: Oh no, you lay foundations.
—Lines from movie Catherine the Great (2000). A&E.